sumdumguy
2016-06-25 03:42:27 UTC
You need to do more research before calling someone a liar. Yes I agree that reading the post, it was obvious the salesman was trying to play the guy. But Young Chang does have Renner action. They used to produce Essex line for Steinway back in the old days.. And one of the vice president of Steinway joined Young Chang and helped produce Renner action. Young Chang was also the producer of Yamaha at one point. It also owns Kurzweil and is subsidiary of Hyundai. It probably has more know how and sound technology than most well known piano manufacturers and have excellent reputation for producing good instrument.
salesman.
I thought what they'd told you so far was pretty preposterous myself, but let's
it?"
This is why the piano has a sold tag on it. It isn't really sold, but is being
used to trash Steinway, and to try to get customers to believe that a Young
Chang is a better piano. This is slimy sales tactic is called "nailing it to
the floor". They have the Steinway "nailed to the floor" with the sold tag on
it, and have the piano set up purposely to sound terrible. Then they point out
to you how bad it sounds, and how good their Young Changs sound in comparison,
and then tell you it is a better piano than the Steinway. It could have easily
been some other brand, it's just that in this case they were trying to make you
believe the YCs are better than a Steinway.
What you have is a dirtball of a salesman, working in a dirtball dealer's
store. He is a liar, and is unethical. (Was I too vague? ;-) )
My advice would be to find another dealership to do business with, one who will
act professional and sell his products on their merits instead of
misrepresenting his products and trashing his competition.
The truth of it is a Young Chang will never sound or play like a premium piano,
Steinway or any other one. And even if by some miracle a tech was able to make
you think it did, it wouldn't maintain it very long. A Young Chang is a mass
produced assembly line piano of good quality, with a useful musical life of
about 30-35 years, a good quality midlevel piano that you throw away when it
dies. A Steinway is an overpriced shell of its former self, but even at that it
is a premium grade instrument far superior to anything Young Chang will ever
do, and one that will last twice as long and then can be rebuilt to last twice
as long again.
and the tone is too two dimensional to sing.
Larry Fletcher
Pianos Inc
Atlanta GA
Dealer/technician
Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
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From: "Pierre-Normand Houle"
The salesman told me they had Renner actions (Young Chang)
None of the Young Chang pianos have Renner actions, or use Renner parts.The salesman told me they had Renner actions (Young Chang)
The Kawai dealer also told me
that Young Chang's had Renner actions but that was his way to disparage.
Renner actions!
So now we know the Kawai salesman was just as big a liar as the Young Changthat Young Chang's had Renner actions but that was his way to disparage.
Renner actions!
salesman.
I thought what they'd told you so far was pretty preposterous myself, but let's
The tone (Steinway) was awfully thin and metallic. It sounded like a broken
xylophone. The salesman commented: It doesn't compare to a Young Chang, doesit?"
This is why the piano has a sold tag on it. It isn't really sold, but is being
used to trash Steinway, and to try to get customers to believe that a Young
Chang is a better piano. This is slimy sales tactic is called "nailing it to
the floor". They have the Steinway "nailed to the floor" with the sold tag on
it, and have the piano set up purposely to sound terrible. Then they point out
to you how bad it sounds, and how good their Young Changs sound in comparison,
and then tell you it is a better piano than the Steinway. It could have easily
been some other brand, it's just that in this case they were trying to make you
believe the YCs are better than a Steinway.
What you have is a dirtball of a salesman, working in a dirtball dealer's
store. He is a liar, and is unethical. (Was I too vague? ;-) )
My advice would be to find another dealership to do business with, one who will
act professional and sell his products on their merits instead of
misrepresenting his products and trashing his competition.
The truth of it is a Young Chang will never sound or play like a premium piano,
Steinway or any other one. And even if by some miracle a tech was able to make
you think it did, it wouldn't maintain it very long. A Young Chang is a mass
produced assembly line piano of good quality, with a useful musical life of
about 30-35 years, a good quality midlevel piano that you throw away when it
dies. A Steinway is an overpriced shell of its former self, but even at that it
is a premium grade instrument far superior to anything Young Chang will ever
do, and one that will last twice as long and then can be rebuilt to last twice
as long again.
Are there other observations of Young Chang's ability to sing once properly
voiced and regulated?
Asian pianos cannot sing. They are too percussive, their sustain is too short,voiced and regulated?
and the tone is too two dimensional to sing.
Larry Fletcher
Pianos Inc
Atlanta GA
Dealer/technician
Doing the work of three men.....Larry, Curly, & Moe
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